tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7353917441739196825.post8581633428903949268..comments2024-03-28T10:17:53.657-07:00Comments on The E Panel: Lost in timeLloydMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15341630229725069671noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7353917441739196825.post-88107904063090444152011-12-24T03:08:48.799-08:002011-12-24T03:08:48.799-08:00(oops this is late). Yea the ROV system was a bonu...(oops this is late). Yea the ROV system was a bonus point system in the 1980s code of points that rewarded risk, originality and virtuosity in the routine. I'm not sure how they measured that though. Of course, routines in the 1980s were pretty darn good :)<br /><br />Right now, I think there's just no reason a gymnast should attempt interesting routines. Look at how Porgras' beam choreo has degraded from 2010 to 2011. Even if they reduce the number of skills to be counted (yet again), the gymnast might just use the extra time to "set up" for hard skills, or do some inane hand gestures. I don't think beam has improved from last quad, despite counting less skills. <br /><br />Sure it might be subjective, but then E scores are too, I suppose.Elanymirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08140273464032721524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7353917441739196825.post-72259073552347833162011-12-08T01:58:30.919-08:002011-12-08T01:58:30.919-08:00I am glad you think so!
Oh GOD the leap series. I...I am glad you think so!<br /><br />Oh GOD the leap series. In all honesty I often skip it when I watch routines on youtube. It makes leaps so soul-less and empty. Of course there is still the occasional gymnast who makes leaps or jumps interesting (I am really happy Ponor kept her spin into leap at the top of her routine) but I rarely if ever enjoy the leap series. Eurgh what has become of everything.<br /><br />Is that Risk, Originality, Virtuosity or something? Could you explain it to me a bit I don't know much about the concept?LloydMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15341630229725069671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7353917441739196825.post-48988853234144768072011-12-05T15:10:29.123-08:002011-12-05T15:10:29.123-08:00Wow that was a really eloquent way of putting it. ...Wow that was a really eloquent way of putting it. The code as a method of judging VS routines to fit the prescriptive code. Works perfectly. <br />Funny the required elements thing were introduced to keep some elements of the Compulsories and artistry. Remember the days with no leap series... but actual interesting, varied, floaty leaps? And the leaps out of the tumble thing, back in the days of Atler, or even 2008 Afan with the double stag out from the L-turn, it was pretty cool, added flair and all. Not so much when Mitchell does it 3 times in a routine now.<br />Dunno how well it will work, but I want some sort of ROV system.Elanymirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08140273464032721524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7353917441739196825.post-9208279914244252832011-12-05T12:07:54.942-08:002011-12-05T12:07:54.942-08:00Something really has to change. But I struggle to ...Something really has to change. But I struggle to think how any manifestation of the current code could achieve something to equal the past.<br /><br />What I mean is (if it makes ANY sense at all) is to do with the perspective with which you view the problem. I feel like in the past people had the perspective that the routine itself was the focal point, and the code a means by which to mark it. Now it is like the code is the focal point and the routine is a way of squeezing every last possible drop out of the code.<br /><br />I know this is a confused explanation of how I feel but its the best I can manage! I think that people will always find loopholes in an open ended code and things will quickly become boring. If it wasn't unconnected connections and paltry leaps out of tumbling it would be something else to the same effect. I think it is inherently bad and I am not sure how anything based on the current system could work as well as any of us would like.LloydMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15341630229725069671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7353917441739196825.post-67913890308877631782011-12-05T02:57:05.454-08:002011-12-05T02:57:05.454-08:00Yes I adore Miss Komova's bhs-lay-lay (and so ...Yes I adore Miss Komova's bhs-lay-lay (and so many more from the 90s), its actually connected and much more exciting to watch. But it only get a 0.1 CV whereas the front aerial-bhs-lay get 0.2. Times like this... curse the code! I think even Komova is ditching that.Elanymirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08140273464032721524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7353917441739196825.post-12471093356903352282011-12-04T02:05:56.300-08:002011-12-04T02:05:56.300-08:00That's ok! I agree though she would do them re...That's ok! I agree though she would do them really well. I love her inbar stalder 1/1. I'm really hoping for a speedy recovery from her (and perhaps she will get a great bars set as a result of all this).<br /><br />Jen: glad you agree, and thanks!LloydMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15341630229725069671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7353917441739196825.post-29575695036475039252011-12-02T15:34:34.697-08:002011-12-02T15:34:34.697-08:00Ahhhh I'm sorry I remember reading an article ...Ahhhh I'm sorry I remember reading an article saying bross should perform hop fulls bc her full pirouettes are so quick. It just came to me reading the article and mistakenly put that. Sorry for the mistake!ashlynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08440526252366525197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7353917441739196825.post-6745082447761212552011-12-02T09:34:57.098-08:002011-12-02T09:34:57.098-08:00Whips and hop fulls are two of my favorite skills,...Whips and hop fulls are two of my favorite skills, and I totally agree with you. Great post.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07157092962345960003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7353917441739196825.post-78977544417621633942011-12-01T23:52:14.673-08:002011-12-01T23:52:14.673-08:00Katrina: I thought as I was writing it "is th...Katrina: I thought as I was writing it "is this actually true?", one of those silly things I should have checked before I posted but I was rushing I guess. Thanks for enlightening me! That montage is really cool.<br /><br />Ashlyn: Glad you agree :) Totally forgot about Dawes, I will add her in. But I have to ask as well when did Bross perform a hop full?LloydMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15341630229725069671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7353917441739196825.post-17293537726240565102011-12-01T20:37:45.549-08:002011-12-01T20:37:45.549-08:00When did Bross perform hop fulls on bars?When did Bross perform hop fulls on bars?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7353917441739196825.post-62680879749956981812011-12-01T16:10:37.233-08:002011-12-01T16:10:37.233-08:00I agree with everything in this post!! AH!
1. Br...I agree with everything in this post!! AH!<br /><br />1. Bring back the whipbacks! <br /><br />2. Hop fulls on bars--I particularly like Bross's hop fulls. They are done in full on attack mode!<br /><br />3. Didn't Dawes lose her chances at an olympic aa medal too from a punch front mishap? I like Dantzcher's 00 double layout+pf.<br /><br />4. A PROPER FLIGHT SERIES! Ugh I am so so so so so over front aerial+bhs+layout stepout. Blech so boring!ashlynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08440526252366525197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7353917441739196825.post-56612566412864179272011-12-01T15:28:25.166-08:002011-12-01T15:28:25.166-08:00"I love that Chuso was the first person to do..."I love that Chuso was the first person to do one of these fantastic little bar elements"<br />She wasn't. See this vid:<br />http://youtu.be/Alltr18jkjIAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14864023061466942494noreply@blogger.com